Thursday, March 31, 2011

Stevens Model .22 .410 combo gun with Tenite forend and stock


Look what followed me home from the gun store the other day, a Stevens Model .22 .410 with Tenite forend and stock. CLICK HERE to read the post by The Fishing Musician that inspired me to buy this old gun. In my book, the superposed .22 long rifle / .410 shotgun combo gun is one of America’s greatest utility firearms of all time. My Dad had one just like this one during his early days in Eastern Tennessee; it was his first gun. I am lucky enough to enjoy hunting as a sport; during his youth, my Dad hunted out of necessity. Small game hunting with guns like this was salvation for many folks during hard times; these guns provided meat for the dinner table. Ammo was an expensive commodity for poor country folks so the standing rule was “one shot, one meal.” Instead of expending a second round, Dad once climbed a tree to recover a wounded squirrel; it viciously locked its teeth into his thumb while he proceeded to choke it to death while balancing precariously on a tree branch high off the ground. Yeah, survival hunting is a much more serious affair than is hunting for sport.

When I saw this old gun on the store rack, a somewhat silly sentiment told me that I had to have it in order to complete a connection to my past. When I was young, I used to sneak Dad’s old combo gun out so I could go hunting in the local woods. I know that my older brother will also get a kick out of seeing this gun; he too speaks fondly of “Dad’s old .410.” I remember Dad’s gun being in very rugged shape; the sights were missing, as was the plug for the Tenite stock and there was absolutely no sign of bluing left on the scarred metal; it had seen some hard use on some rocky trails. Dad’s gun was gone long before Dad passed away. The memories of both are still strong. This gun one will act as a surrogate for me; it will be my foster “Dad’s gun.” Honor thy Father.



As you can see in the photo, the major “weak link” on the Stevens Model .22 .410 is the barrel selector (mine is missing the button and screw). One major problem is the screw coming loose and the selector button falling off while afield, lost forever in the leaves or tall grass. Further, the selector link itself is not durable and eventually it will break. If I were to use this gun as my sole survival tool, I would have a gunsmith convert it to the newer Savage design with the barrel selector on the hammer. Since this gun is nothing but a sentimental purchase that will only see rare nostalgic bunny, bird, and squirrel hunts, I will repair it with original parts. The selector link on mine looks intact; when the button and screw that I ordered from Numrich arrive, I will attempt to fix the gun myself. Failing that, the old gun will take a trip to a competent gunsmith.


The Savage Arms Company bought the Stevens Arms Company in 1920. All Stevens Model .22 .410s were manufactured between 1939 and 1950 and have no serial numbers, some with wood stocks and forends, some with Tenite. According to this site, the U.S. Army Air Force adopted the Tenite-stocked Stevens .22/.410 over-under combination gun as its first "survival gun" with an order for 15,000 of them. After 1950, Savage put its name on the gun and designated it as the Model 24. Sadly, Savage discontinued manufacturing; if you want one, you are at the mercy of the used gun racks and the availability of spare parts. CLICK HERE to visit the UK .410 site for more information on these great old guns.


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68 comments:

Jason said...

One of my all-time favorites! I lusted after those for many years as a kid - great find!

James A. Zachary Jr. said...

Thank ya kindly, Jason!

THE FISHING MUSICIAN said...

Well good for you, Zach! I'm behind the curve of Zachness in that I have not found the exact gun I want. I've seen several in fair shape, but just fair. Fair and overpriced at the very good level. So I'm planning to hit a big gun show this month.

You inspire as well, brother! Can't wait to hear about some adventures and perhaps some stories from your dad's era about that real living our dad's had to do, hunting for survival.

As one of my favorite Blues guitarists/singers, Kent "Omar" Dykes of Omar and the Howlers, said in his 1988 hit..."Hard Times in the Land of Plenty", well, that's what it was for those fellows growing up in the lean years.

So, some stories about you and your dad, and some stories about adventures with the gun when that happens. Can't wait, Zach!

James A. Zachary Jr. said...

Thanks, El Fisho. I paid too much for it, but the price was nonnegotiable and I haven't seen a Tenite Stevens in condition this fair in years; they are getting to be a rare find.

May you have good luck on hunting yours down!

Arthur B. Burnett said...

Greetings from Texas,
One of the writers that came to The Great Pumpkin Shoot had the Savage version of this weapon. She let me keep it for a couple of days to make friends with. Like you, this is one I have wanted for as long as I could remember.

Dan said...

Great find! Trust you will have a blast, er yeah, a blast with it. Every so often, something found is worth more than the money it cost us. Good on ya...

James A. Zachary Jr. said...

Thanks Art! Thanks Dan!

Eric said...

I've been keeping my open for many years looking for something similar. The .22/.410 over/under was the gun my grandpa would let me use to go hunting in the woods behind his house. I got my first partridge (ruffed grouse) with it, too. Great little gun!

Deerdon1@verizon.net said...

I bought one of these Stevens Model .22 .410 with Tenite forend and stock yesterday at a gun show in Syracuse NY. Paid $400 gun looks good with a couple dings on top of the barrel and a couple scratches in the stock. Bores look good and its tight when you break it open. Dealer told me it was a good price, what do you think?

James A. Zachary Jr. said...

I don't really know for sure; my guess is that it is about right. I paid $60 or so less than you did, but I had to purchase and install the selector button and screw sooooo we both paid about the same overall. The tenite guns are getting rare. There is a wood stock Model 24 on the store rack asking around $450... since Savage quit making them, the prices have gone north... bargains seem to be hard to find.

Paul M said...

My grandmother gave me her Stevens 22-410 when I was about 12 years old as my first gun. It has sat in various closets/gun cabinets for many years (I'm 54 now and I just decided to pull it out and do some restoration work which is how a stumbled across this website. It's in great shape and the only piece missing is the "elevating" slide for the rear sight. Also, most of the bluing is missing and there's a bit of rust. Otherwise, everything works beautifully and the tenite stock is still in great shape. It was very interesting to read your write up. I was going to attach a picture but wasn't sure how to do that.

Anonymous said...

I bought two old savage 22/410 shotguns the other day.
I paid $200 for the set--are rough shape one missing the for arm stock and other is missing the butt stalk.
I wanted to know were could I find some stalks? Would anyone be willing to bid on these for a price? What should I ask for them if yall paid $450 for one in good shape.
theredneck1968@yahoo.com

Bill. said...

I have a Stevens 410/22. No mention of Savage on the gun and has the tennite forend and stock. It was my Dad's and he passed away in 1958. It's in A-1 condition and I had forgotten about it until I read your post.It is a complete gun, all original and still shows the bluing. I'm in Canada and would like to post some photos of it for your interest. How can I do that?

Regards, Bill.

James A. Zachary Jr. said...

Hey there Bill! Thanks for stopping by.

If you would like, email them to me at the address in my profile on the left sidebar and I'll add them to this post.

Thanks,

Zack

Bill. said...

Hi Zack,

Will send you some pic.'s next week. It's a holiday weekend in Canada and there's lots on the go here but I'll get to it and send them to you.

Regards, Bill.

big cds said...

i collect these guns &have alot of them. they started making them in 1939.numrich gun parts have replacment parts for these guns minus the tenite parts. you have to replace them with wood now. anybody want to get rid of any can contact me at bigcods90@yahoo.com

bilby said...

I have a gently used 22/410 savage with the tenite stock and fore end. My grandfather bought it in 1950 or so as a varmint gun. He never had the heart to shoot anything so i did the varmint shooting. Grandpa gave me the gun a couple years ago but i left at his house till he passed away last year. Dont think they could print enough money for me to sell it.

pschaefer said...

I have one as well that needs a stock. It has a walnut forearm. Also need the screw to hold the selector switch. Fortunately its still there!Any help is appreciated! pschaefer72@yahoo.com
812-725-4725

Anonymous said...

i bought a savage model 24 .22 over .410 friday 1/6/12 and shot it sunday loved it got a good deal on it but sadly i cant keep it about 2 weeks ago me and my dad went,2 a gun show and he said he had ,always wanted 1 so he will be getting a very cool bday present in may

Anonymous said...

i have an older one that i inherited through my old man. its been passed along through the family and no one knows just how old it is. all i know is you can barely read the lettering on the left side and i can just tell that its a genuine stevens. as in before the buyout occurred. its been reblued for sure. not too sure whats orriginal or not but its a great lil gun and minus the horribly mistreated rear sight its in wonderful shape.

Anonymous said...

Wow! I inherited my Dads Tenite in perfect condition and had no idea what I have. I now know why my brother keeps asking to buy it. It was bought in Tennessee in the mid 40's.
My brother got my Dads 16 gauge double choke. Thanks guys !

Burns said...

I have enjoyed reading the posts here. In 1961 my brother and I bought our first gun from a cousin for $40. A Stevens L22-410 with tenite forend and stock. It killed a lot of squirells and rabbits over the years and even a few Bobwhite Quail.All of working parts still in good shape and complete. Still use it. Only problem is the stock is detiorating. Would love to find another one. Any ideas on where to look? If not I could replace with a wood one.I have owned for almost 48 years and plan to live it in the family.

James A. Zachary Jr. said...

Numrich may have them, but I doubt it. Most folks are replacing broken tenite stocks with wood.

Patti said...

I have one ...I am looking for a firing pin for mine..any help wpould be appreciated!

James A. Zachary Jr. said...

Patti, cut and paste the url below into your browser window and it should take you to the correct page at Numrich.

Most gunsmiths can order the parts and put them in for you. It can be a tricky replacement... I would not try it myself. Good luck!

http://www.gunpartscorp.com/catalog/Products.aspx?catid=3896

Jorge said...

I have one just like this, i´m trying to sell it, but the government her in Mexico prohibits, the arm selling outside our borders, how much I could ask for it, it´s in mint condition and has it´s bag , the bag is in good shape.

James A. Zachary Jr. said...

Hello, Jorge. Thanks for visiting the blog.

I really don't know what a good asking price would be. Up here, a good one can generally can bring between $400 and $500. I have no idea how an international sale is handled. We have some criminals in our government who know how to smuggle guns from here to Mexico, but I doubt that they would be of any help doing something legal.

Best wishes to you,

Zack

Anonymous said...

I have a Stevens 22-410 that my dad gave me when I was 12. He said he got it in the late 30's. I haven't used it in years and was thinking of selling it. This one still works but is only in fair condition. The selector switch is missing so it's stuck in the 410 mode. Most of the bluing is gone and the rear sight is loose. I replaced the stock when I was younger so it is not original. Anyone interested?

Anonymous said...

Excellent story. I have the Stevens 410/22 as well. My dad bought it at age 14 and he is 87 now. The Tenite stock broke do to an auto accident we were involved in when I was 12 so we had a wooden stock and forearm put on it. I broke it out and used it on my deer lease as a snake gun for quite a while then I decided to reblue and redo the stock and forearm and retire it. I have had so much fun with that old gun it is nice that you found one.

blnfuse said...

I today have aquired two of these from a desprate friend. Both are in need of parts. One; the Stevens needs a hammer and the other the savage needs a set of stocks. Do you know where i can get a set of tennites?

James A. Zachary Jr. said...

Numrich may have them, but I doubt it. Most folks are replacing broken tenite stocks with wood. Numrich should be able to get you a hammer. Good luck!

Anonymous said...

Can anyone tell me what the cross engraving means in the side of the receiver? Mine has a heart. I am looking for a barrel that will fit it if anyone out there has one email me at pso221@yahoo.com Please!

John said...

I am in need of a barrel for one of these guns. I have not been able to find one that fits. It has a heart engraved on the receiver just behind the barrels...what does this mean? Can anyone help me find one to fix Grandpa's gun? Please email me at pso221@yahoo.com

FORREST said...

I have a Stevens .22-410 with the tenite stock and forearm that is is excellent condition. There are no missing parts. The barrel selector is still intact and operational. I took it to Cabelas to see if they would trade me for a nice 20 guage but they only offered me $225. WAY TOO LOW. Is anyone out there interested? Make a reasonable offer.

FORREST said...

I have a stevens .22.410 that was passed down to me by my Step Father. I am looking to get rid of it so I can purchase a 20 guage for my wife for turkey hunting. It is is great condition. There are no missing parts. Barrel selector is intact and still works. No signs of losing its blueing. Make a reasonable offer.

Here and Now said...

Nice to know these have value! I inherited mine from my dad. Barrel selector still intact but has some electrical tape holding some of the tenite stock together. Just went online today to find out what his guns are worth. I don't use em.

gunslingin soldier said...

Hi my name is Michael I just got out of the military airborn infantry my father passed and in an old box in our attic I found a 22-410 long barrel j. Stevens I am about to be a father and I thought if I sold it I could get some money for baby stuff do u know anybody who might be interested in buying it?

gunslingin soldier said...

I came across a 22-410 long barrel in my attic after my father passed I am about to be a new father I thought I could sell it and get some money together for baby stuff

vaught221 said...

Gunslingin soldier I'd be interested in that barrel. can you let me see what you have? Email me at pso221@yahoo.com and let me know what you'd like for it. I have my Grandpa's gun that needs a new barrel.

vaught221 said...

blnfuse I have a tenite butt stock with a wooden forearm stock that I don't need. I'd be willing to trade those and cash to you for the Stevens...in need of a barrel or one.

chingas51 said...

I have a Stevens in great condition. I want know how to change from from one barrel to the other. All the pieces and screws there. It was my Dad's he used to go squirrel shooting in Watsonville when he was a boy.

chingas51 said...

I have a Stevens that belonged to my Dad. It's in great shape with all the pieces. I would like to know how change the barrels so I can shoot it. He didn't show me the before he passed away. He used to shoot squirrels in Watsonville as a boy.

Anonymous said...

Chingas51 this is a simple thing if the Stevens is a single shot hinge action such as the 22-410. Just pull the foregrip at the end toward the barrel tip and it will come off. That is if there is no screw holding it...if there is, remove it. Then open the hinge and the barrel should come off.

Anonymous said...

I have two of these guns. One, with the Tenite stock, needs to be repaired. I have another that is all original wood. Someone has epoxyed the rear sight in place but it still shoots well. I suspect that the dove tail rear sight had become loose and they did not understand the application of a punch and light tap to tighten it up. I love my guns... don't tell my wife...

Anonymous said...

Has anyone successfully replaced the tennite stock and forend with wood? I would be interested in reading your comments. I inherited mine from my dad as well and shot it as a kid, looking forward to my son taking it for a spin. But the stock is empty and so it's off balance. Any ideas appreciated!

Anonymous said...

Have a Stevens 22-410 upper for sale
Sekerdnarcisse@gmail.com

longhaired country boy said...

i was givin a stevens 22-410 by my dad recently. tenite stock and forend are in good shape only it puts off this funky smell. only thing missing is the front sight. have ordered a plastic one from nimrich because metal ones are sold out but still looking. other than that everything is in working order. have decided to replace the stock and forend with walnut. anybody interested in the smelly tenite set? make me an offer. jake1 finley@gmail.com

DavidC Lloyd said...

Hello, I have a model 24 circa 1942 passed down from my grandfather to my father to me. It has a broken selector switch. I have a replacement switch from Numrich, but I really need some tips on how to remove the broken one and install the new one. Any help out there? Please contact me at davidclloyd.captx456@google.com
Thanks!

Anonymous said...

David C. Lloyd - your email address is not working. I can help you (and anyone else) with you selector delima. sscombos(at)hotmail(dot)com

Anthony

Anonymous said...

Im always looking for 24s and serviceable parts for them. If you have something you want to sell, or just looking for information, dont hesitate to email me. I will glady share what I know if it helps keep one of these guns around for the next generation to enjoy! Anthony: sscombos(at)hotmail(dot)com

Anonymous said...

I have a 22-410 Tenite that is in great condition except it's missing the plug that goes on the bottom of the butt. Anyone know where I might find one of those? Not looking to sell, just want it complete.

Thanks

billindenton-24@yahoo.com said...

I have a busted tennite stock, but
the plug is OK. Do you still need
one?

Anonymous said...

I have a Stevens .22/.410 in my store for sale. See it at https://www.facebook.com/2ndAmendmentCoLLC
in the used guns photo album.

Anonymous said...

I bought one of these at an auction last year. It too was missing the selector button. I was able to order one from Numrich, and fixed it right up.

Jessy Demers said...

Hi I have a 22/410 Stevens that has been passed on by my grandfather and the butt is cracked and it needs to be reblued I want to know. If I do those repairs on it will it lose any value I'm not looking to sell it I want to pass it on to my son when he is of age
Thank you

James A. Zachary Jr. said...

Hey there, Jessy. Thanks for stopping in.

I really don't know the answer to that. Sometimes those blemishes hold a nostagia for me; the hard knocks that went along with hard times left scars on people as well as their tools. On old pieces like these, repairs often cost more than the gun is worth.

I generally only make repairs to a firearms for safety reasons or function. If it is safe to shoot, I usually let it be. Other folks want their old guns to look good as as new. It is a matter of choice.

Take care!

Zack

Anonymous said...

i need a tenite stock want to keep the gun original if possible if you have a good stock contact me at gellner@charter.net

John said...

I have a barrel without extractors that I'll sell cheap. Its not great on the outside, but looks good through the bores. Bought it to replace a broken barrel, but must be from a much later gun cause it doesn't line up. Email me at pso221@yahoo.com if you are interested...just want to get my money back.

Bert said...

Looking for a butt cap for one of these guns with a tenite stock. please email to ryber@comcast.net with price if someone has one for sale.

Anonymous said...

I have a 22-410 with a tenite foreehd and stock is there any way to tell the age of the gun.I know they were made between 1939-1950.there is no serial number but on the underside of the barrel there is a leter j any info would be help full contact ne at gellner@charter.net

G. Sullivan Jr. said...

I inherited my dad's Stevens 22 410 and it is in excellent shape, except the tenite stock is a little loose. Is there a way to tighten it? the only screw I saw is on the trigger guard. I am very much a novice shooter but would like to shoot this gun with my 12 year old son at the local range. Also don't really know how to clean it. I also have my Dad's AF issue .38 special revolver. It is in excellent shape as well. My dad was not really a gun person and I've shot a few times and enjoyed it. My son has shown an interest and it would be something fun to do together.

Spud said...

Picked up an early one a couple years back. It is complete with Tenite in good shape. Selector switch is intack. When I test fired it indented both the .410 and the 22 rnds. Yet both failed to fire ! The indents looked normal....Help ?
radstix@gmail.com

Paul G said...

My older sister surprised me today. She gave me dad's Steven's 22/410 with the tenite stocks. No cracks or scratches. If I did not know that he used it a couple of times a year, I would think it was new. I guess I owe the big sis now big time.

Anonymous said...

I have a Stevens 22/410 that needs a newer stock. The stock is useable but has a break on the side.
Anyone have a stock for sale?

chiefmyronpierce@hotmail.comgS

Anonymous said...

I am looking to buy a stevens favorite little scout or crackshot with a 16 in barell gellner@charter.com

Anonymous said...

My Daddy had a Savage 22 410 and he gave it to me before he passed away in 1981. I was only 13. Needless to say It "disappeared" when I was 18. I'm 46 now and decided to locate a replacement. I am totally shocked how limited the Stevens or Savage is. Just as of yesterday, In 2 different online auctions, I found an original Stevens in Cincinnati, and an original Savage in Missoula MT. Got the Stevens good price but Savage I had to work for and paid double. Both auctions said in Excellent Original condition. Will get them in about a week, very excited.

ratfinkcms574 said...

I have a Stevens 22-410 that belonged to my oldest brother who was killed on one of our stallions in 1944.I was not born until 1945. It is the only thing I have of his and am trying to rebuild it. I had 7 brothers and we all grew up learning to hunt with it, there are only 3 of us left. I am in need of a Tinite stock and I don't care if it is cracked. I also need a frame with all of the internal parts. If anyone has any of these items I would like to buy them. Thank you. ratfinkcms574.

Anonymous said...

you can contact me @ bigcods90@yahoo.com as I might have what you need.